Wednesday, March 18, 2015

Solemnity Alert! Ist Vespers for St. Joseph tonight.

Should have posted this sooner, but...don't forget to begin the solemnity of St. Joseph with Evening Prayer I today. 

19 comments:

  1. Is it okay if I do the Inviatory and Morning prayer in the morning and do the Office of Readings at Mid-morning (stand alone) or does the Office need to be done in conjunction with Morning or Evening Prayer?

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    1. Yes, you may do that. The General Instruction states that this hour may be said at any time of day. The custom of attaching it to Morning Prayer is widespread due to it's historical equivalence to the office of Matins in the pre-Vatican II breviary. But its just that--a custom. I often do OOR later in the morning if I'm too busy earlier to do MP and OOR together.

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    2. Thanks so much for the clarification. The Divine Office is so beautiful and peaceful. I use the Divine Office.org app on my phone and yesterday it included the most beautiful hymn to St. Joseph. It referred to him as Chaste husband of a Virgin wife; Wise guardian of the Bread of Life;
      The One who humbly held the Son of God. Such an beautiful vision of him.

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  2. OK - here's a second try at posting.

    For the past two days of optional memorials (Mar. 17-18, Ss. Patrick and Cyril), only one antiphon was listed in the morning prayer (and evening prayer for St. Patrick, as I call). Would this have been the antiphon for the psalms or for the Gospel canticle? Or doesn't it matter? It wasn't obvious to me, so I used it for the canticle.

    Thanks.

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    1. Yes the single antiphon listed in the proper of saints is for the Gospel canticle.

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    2. During Lent and Advent, Memorials are done in a different way than in other seasons -- the method is described on pages 86-7 of the first volume. Basically you do Morning or Evening Prayer as normal, but omit the "We ask this in the name of..." part. Then you say the antiphon from the Memorial, and the saint's prayer, then conclude the office. So you never actually use the antiphon for the gospel canticle. In other seasons it always specifies what the antiphon is for.

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    3. Um...I think you're wrong about that antiphon. It's there to be used with the gospel canticle as far as I've always understood it. However, will look this up tomorrow. Right now it's my bedtime.

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  3. General Instruction 239b tells us that hikarugenji is correct. As a side note, Cyrpian doesn't get an evening prayer canticle because it would be a very rare time and place when he would have an evening prayer at all.

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    1. That's why Cyril and the other saints that always occur during Lent are listed as "Commemoration" instead of Memorial. They could have made this clearer, though, since in the little rank summary at the beginning of every volume, it just says that memorials may be celebrated as optional memorials during Lent and Advent.

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    2. Wow! You are right. Don't know how I never noticed that: probably because there are very few saint's days during lent to begin with, and I tend to not bother with most of these anyway, and just do the lenten weekday. I'll bet this bit of the instruction is widely unknown: I've never seen in implemented in any parish or other community settings where I've attended the LOTH. Of course, maybe I just never happened to be at these places on a saint's day during lent or advent. I'll have to write a blog post about his in the near future.

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    3. Daria, iBreviary has been giving the instructions on how to do this at the beginning of each office, which is very helpful. It's just as hikarugenji said.

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    4. Huh. Given that I don't use iBreviary, I've never seen that, and I didn't recall that from my recent re-read of the General Instruction. 239b. Good to know.

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    5. honestly, it feels kind of clunky, since it has no analog in the rest of the Ordimary Form that I know of. I do quite enjoy OOR for commenorations. I could live with that being the usual way during non-privileged seasons.

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    6. Doug, iBreviary as only been doing it on the days of Commemorations during Lent (at least that's when I started noticing it). I didn't know about it before either. I generally use a print Breviary, but like to keep iBreviary up as a kind of reminder and to check if I have any questions about a particular day.

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    7. The way you do the Office of Readings is slightly different as well; I think you just read both the day's patristic reading and the saint's, but there might be something else there too.

      Unkown: The method of commemoration at MP and EP is a holdover from the pre-Vatican II breviary where (for various reasons) it happened a lot more frequently and was often mandatory. I'm not sure why they decided to retain it only as an optional way to commemorate a saint during Lent or Advent.

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  4. And don't forget about the Annunciation this Tuesday evening!

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    1. Yes, thanks. I'll try to remember to post on Tuesday.

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