Saturday, December 6, 2014

Solemnity Alert! No First Vespers!

Monday is the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin  Mary.

But Sunday, being a Sunday of Advent, takes precedence. So we would not use Evening  Prayer I for the solemnity.
Murillo, Immaculate Coception, Museo del Prado

10 comments:

  1. So...Sunday of Advent takes precedence over Solemnity then? I assume then that this is why we did NOT pray Feast of St. Andrew the Apostle on Nov. 30?

    Can you point me to the right place in the General Instruction to find all these little ins and outs?

    Thanks!

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    1. (...because ordinarily, Feast would take precedence over Sunday (except for First Vespers), correct?)

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    2. Yes,Solemnities--and feast of Our Lord (not of Our Lady) take precedence over Sundays in ordinary time, but not those of the various holy seasons. If you read Chapter IV of the General Instruction,(#204 - 252). An easier format for most of this information is not the General Instruction but the "Table Of Liturgical Days" which follows the General Instruction in volume I of the 4 volume breviary. If you Google that title you should find online links as well.

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    3. DAria,
      a quick question. I have been reading the catechesis and mediations of JPII on the psalms and canticles of morning prayer....Do you know if there are available the meditations of JPII and BXVI on evening praeyr? Are they on-line? I have a book for those on morning prayer. Great companion for mediations, study and reflection.
      Go raibh maith agat
      Tom

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    4. Tom, the evening prayer meditations were once in print, Catholic Truth Society, London. Used copies are very expensive at least in the USA but maybe more readily available in your neck of the woods. However, I just did a search and found that someone made this chart of all the psalms with links to the Vatican website for each of these catecheses. Here is it: http://members.wolfram.com/billw/psalter/ And, you're welcome.

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  2. Daria, I wish I had discovered your site when I was writing my books on the Psalms and Catholic Prayer. What a great service you are providing for the Church. Now I know where to look for information about the upcoming revision of the Liturgy of the Hours! A blessed Advent!

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    1. Well, Sister, I could as easily say that I wish I'd seen your Catholic Companion to the Psalms when I was writing the The Everyday Catholic's Guide to the LOTH! I was trying to remember where I"d seen your name, then look up your books (wow! impressively long list!) and remembered that I'd reviewed Totally Catholic! for some magazine or other. (Maybe RTJ Creative Catechist but not positive) I wish I had an inside line to info about the revision, but all I have is watching the Bishop's meeting on EWTN and reading the USCCB website. A blessed Advent to you, too.

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  3. I guess I need a guide for the St. Joseph's guide. :) For today (Dec. 8th) it has ALL page 1224. So I read that then follow with whatever hour I am praying? Then it says Te Deum. Is that the hymn that is sung? I only have the first volume of the LOH and I can't seem to find it. Then it says Daytime prayer page 1191. Is that read in addition to ALL 1224? Then it says Nighttime prayer page 1172. Again is that in addition to ALL 1224? Thanks. Previously I have just used the app but want to pray from the book.

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    1. That was a question I had, too, this morning: `DP ALL 1191`. I thought that 1191 were the supplemental psalms for DP? I generally don't even bother with the St. Joseph's guide, but I'm still fuzzy about Feasts/Solemnities, which is why I even bothered to check today...

      Thanks!

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    2. Johnny, the Te Deum is a separate hymn that follows the Office of Readings on Sundays, Solemnities, and feasts. You may sing it if you know a melody or a chant tone that works for it,o otherwise just recite it. All three sets of complementary psalms are used for the three daytime hours on Solemnities. Before Vatican II, these were the only psalms used for daytime prayer every day of the year, thus making it easy for religious to say them from memory, without a breviary, if they were out working away from the community chapel. These are also known as the "gradual psalms". I don't actually use a St. Joseph guide since it doesn't teach you to understand the principles of choosing the day's prayers--it's just a bunch of page numbers. With any feast or solemnity, go to that day in the proper of saints and try to follow what it says from there. If you aren't sure about precedence (like this year's problem of Evening Prayer I ), check out the table of precedence on p. 99. Also, if you have my book, chpater 7, "Praying the Calendar" gives you the principles you need to wean you off the St. Joseph guide. Good luck! I know this can seem hopelessly complicated at times.

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